On this week’s episode of The Long Form podcast, we are joined by Marc Hoogystens, the first international journalist to visit the strongholds of M23 rebel group in eastern DR Congo.

Following his exclusive interview with M23 president Betrand Bisimwa, Hoogystens shares his views on M23’s readiness for battle, what day-to-day life in territories under their control is like, and what to expect from the Congolese government in the future.

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